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]]> By: Vincent http://www.insightwriter.com/2009/01/12/education-point/comment-page-1/#comment-1078 Vincent Tue, 13 Jan 2009 04:58:47 +0000 http://www.insightwriter.com/?p=779#comment-1078 "For goodness sake, teach them more about money and work, and less about calculus and 19th century literature" Hey Jeremy, I agree with you strongly on this point. The current education system does not teach us anything much about money and this is a real issue that everyone got to deal with once they are out in the society. I believe there is too much theory based knowledge that is taught in school and it will be great if they can incorporate more practical trainings. Cheers Vincent Personal Development Blogger <abbr><em>Vincent’s last blog post..<a href="http://www.healthmoneysuccess.com/586/how-to-achieve-success-in-everything/" rel="nofollow">How To Achieve Success In Everything</a></em></abbr> “For goodness sake, teach them more about money and work, and less about calculus and 19th century literature”

Hey Jeremy, I agree with you strongly on this point. The current education system does not teach us anything much about money and this is a real issue that everyone got to deal with once they are out in the society. I believe there is too much theory based knowledge that is taught in school and it will be great if they can incorporate more practical trainings.

Cheers
Vincent
Personal Development Blogger

Vincent’s last blog post..How To Achieve Success In Everything

]]> By: Jeremy Day http://www.insightwriter.com/2009/01/12/education-point/comment-page-1/#comment-1077 Jeremy Day Mon, 12 Jan 2009 23:53:06 +0000 http://www.insightwriter.com/?p=779#comment-1077 @ Steve - Well thank you for taking the time to comment. I know many people have strong opinions on this issue and I want to create a forum for discussion. I am in total agreeance with what you said. No one can be forced to learn. I think a major goal of teachers should be to instill a love of learning in children. It's a hard task and I think that is why many teachers don't even try. But you are right, student's have a responsibility to learn if they want to accomplish anything in this life. I look forward to reading some more of your comments. @ Bunny - I think this is a good setup and it sounds like that family has a lot of traditional values to go on. Im sure their kids will do just fine for themselves. @ Ian - Wow, sounds like a book I would love reading. I like the phrase "student centered education" Its a good way to put what I am talking about. @ George - I highly encourage you to write your longer comment! I am really interested in everyone's thoughts. I like your choice of the word "mechanics". I think I would put it that way too. We can certainly come up with better mechanics for educating people. Cheers, Jeremy @ Steve – Well thank you for taking the time to comment. I know many people have strong opinions on this issue and I want to create a forum for discussion. I am in total agreeance with what you said. No one can be forced to learn. I think a major goal of teachers should be to instill a love of learning in children. It’s a hard task and I think that is why many teachers don’t even try. But you are right, student’s have a responsibility to learn if they want to accomplish anything in this life. I look forward to reading some more of your comments.

@ Bunny – I think this is a good setup and it sounds like that family has a lot of traditional values to go on. Im sure their kids will do just fine for themselves.

@ Ian – Wow, sounds like a book I would love reading. I like the phrase “student centered education” Its a good way to put what I am talking about.

@ George – I highly encourage you to write your longer comment! I am really interested in everyone’s thoughts. I like your choice of the word “mechanics”. I think I would put it that way too. We can certainly come up with better mechanics for educating people.

Cheers,
Jeremy

]]> By: Steve Olson http://www.insightwriter.com/2009/01/12/education-point/comment-page-1/#comment-1073 Steve Olson Mon, 12 Jan 2009 20:29:05 +0000 http://www.insightwriter.com/?p=779#comment-1073 Hi, I'm glad you are addressing the issue. This is a thoughtful intelligent post. I have strong opinions on this issue. I will just give you one: No one can be forced to learn anything, therefore all learning is voluntary, which leads me to believe that forced/compulsory education will fail and must be replaced with a voluntary system. Yes, some kids will quit, some will choose not to volunteer to learn, but those same kids are failing today. But it will forever remove from the minds of parents and students that it is the school's responsibility to teach, no, quite the contrary, it is the student's responsibility to learn. It is the schools responsibility to make information available and provide a safe environment, the rest is up to the student. <abbr><em>Steve Olson’s last blog post..<a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/steve-olson/nXDA/~3/508166932/" rel="nofollow">How Much Money do you Need?</a></em></abbr> Hi,
I’m glad you are addressing the issue. This is a thoughtful intelligent post. I have strong opinions on this issue. I will just give you one: No one can be forced to learn anything, therefore all learning is voluntary, which leads me to believe that forced/compulsory education will fail and must be replaced with a voluntary system. Yes, some kids will quit, some will choose not to volunteer to learn, but those same kids are failing today. But it will forever remove from the minds of parents and students that it is the school’s responsibility to teach, no, quite the contrary, it is the student’s responsibility to learn. It is the schools responsibility to make information available and provide a safe environment, the rest is up to the student.

Steve Olson’s last blog post..How Much Money do you Need?

]]> By: Bunny got Blog http://www.insightwriter.com/2009/01/12/education-point/comment-page-1/#comment-1072 Bunny got Blog Mon, 12 Jan 2009 18:23:47 +0000 http://www.insightwriter.com/?p=779#comment-1072 Hi Jeremy, Some schools herd kids like sheep.There is to little time for individual help even if teachers and tutors are available. I have a girlfriend who is married with six and yes,I said six kids.She is a nurse works 2-3 days a week and home schools her children. This is because her and the hubby didn't want them exposed to other kids.Other then the families they know. This is extreme but they have made it work for them when the time comes for testing the kids score above the ones who attend the public school. They round out socializing with church,youth groups and gym memberships. Did I mention the dad is a police officer:) <abbr><em>Bunny got Blog’s last blog post..<a href="http://bunnygotblog.com/relationships/agreeing-to-disagree" rel="nofollow">Agreeing To Disagree</a></em></abbr> Hi Jeremy,

Some schools herd kids like sheep.There is to little time for individual help even if teachers and tutors are available.

I have a girlfriend who is married with six and yes,I said six kids.She is a nurse works 2-3 days a week and home schools her children.

This is because her and the hubby didn’t want them exposed to other kids.Other then the families they know.

This is extreme but they have made it work for them when the time comes for testing the kids score above the ones who attend the public school.

They round out socializing with church,youth groups and gym memberships.

Did I mention the dad is a police officer:)

Bunny got Blog’s last blog post..Agreeing To Disagree

]]> By: Ian Peatey http://www.insightwriter.com/2009/01/12/education-point/comment-page-1/#comment-1070 Ian Peatey Mon, 12 Jan 2009 17:41:26 +0000 http://www.insightwriter.com/?p=779#comment-1070 Hi Jeremy, there's a huge amount packed into this post! About a year ago I read a book called 'Teaching As A Subversive Activity'. There's a lot of common ground with what you write. Especially around the curricula of most schools being horribly out of date with what kids will need to know to thrive in the world of today. They also advocate student centered methods of education. What teachers know is out of date and students (even young ones) are much better placed to know what they need to learn. The role of teacher then changes and is more about helping the student learn and attracting them to different subjects - rather than teaching. Most parents intuitively trust and follow the interests of their kids - teachers probably don't because education has been largely taken over by governments and corporations with their own agendas. I found myself nodding in agreement as I turned each page of this book ... when I finished I had a look to see when it was written. 1969! It's disturbing that not much has changed in the last 40 years. I fully agree that topics such as managing personal finances, solving conflicts, forming and maintaining relationships (personal and professional) etc. etc. would be much better on the agendas of schools. Look forward to the rest of the series! Hi Jeremy, there’s a huge amount packed into this post!

About a year ago I read a book called ‘Teaching As A Subversive Activity’. There’s a lot of common ground with what you write. Especially around the curricula of most schools being horribly out of date with what kids will need to know to thrive in the world of today. They also advocate student centered methods of education. What teachers know is out of date and students (even young ones) are much better placed to know what they need to learn. The role of teacher then changes and is more about helping the student learn and attracting them to different subjects – rather than teaching. Most parents intuitively trust and follow the interests of their kids – teachers probably don’t because education has been largely taken over by governments and corporations with their own agendas.

I found myself nodding in agreement as I turned each page of this book … when I finished I had a look to see when it was written. 1969! It’s disturbing that not much has changed in the last 40 years.

I fully agree that topics such as managing personal finances, solving conflicts, forming and maintaining relationships (personal and professional) etc. etc. would be much better on the agendas of schools.

Look forward to the rest of the series!

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